Weird Tire Wear
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Weird Tire Wear
Ok I have 33" Tires on 15x8 wheels, Recently my truck has been vibrating threw the steering wheel like crazy so I figured I needed an alignment, took it in and they checked it, everything was just about right. well I had them rotate the tires and now everything is 100 times better, but I was wondering what couldve caused this to happen? The wear is only on the inside but it is sparatic. I was thinking maybe bad shocks? So I replaced the fronts, is there anything else I should look for?
#3
A situation where you have wear on the inside only is indicative of negative camber, something an offroad truck shouldn't have.....
The alignment checked out okay?
Also, I'm confused as to how the uneven wear caused vibrations....and it shouldn't totally go away....even though you moved it to the back, you should feel it in your seat, even though the steering wheel is smooth now. Vibrations don't just disappear unless you re-balance the wheel or replace it altogether.
I'm voting for it being a loose mounting of the wheel, which has been corrected.
The alignment checked out okay?
Also, I'm confused as to how the uneven wear caused vibrations....and it shouldn't totally go away....even though you moved it to the back, you should feel it in your seat, even though the steering wheel is smooth now. Vibrations don't just disappear unless you re-balance the wheel or replace it altogether.
I'm voting for it being a loose mounting of the wheel, which has been corrected.
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Assuming that you have a 98+ Ranger, your front suspension is of the Short-Long Arm type. It is a characteristic of SLA suspensions that the camber goes negative at both the top and bottom of suspension travel because of the shorter length of the upper control arms.
When you cranked your torsion bars to push those 33's farther away from the truck, you also moved closer to the top of the suspension travel. That made your camber more negative than the factory intended which wears the inside edges of the front tires.
It sounds like you have erratic cupping wear of the tires as well. Although this can be aggravated by loose steering/suspension components or bad shocks, it is more often a characteristic wear pattern of the tire itself, especially aggressive off-road tires. You can reduce the cupping by regular rotation per the owner's manual. It is also important that you get the alignment checked. Excessive negative camber or other misalignment can wear your expensive tires much more quickly.
When you cranked your torsion bars to push those 33's farther away from the truck, you also moved closer to the top of the suspension travel. That made your camber more negative than the factory intended which wears the inside edges of the front tires.
It sounds like you have erratic cupping wear of the tires as well. Although this can be aggravated by loose steering/suspension components or bad shocks, it is more often a characteristic wear pattern of the tire itself, especially aggressive off-road tires. You can reduce the cupping by regular rotation per the owner's manual. It is also important that you get the alignment checked. Excessive negative camber or other misalignment can wear your expensive tires much more quickly.
#11
Hey i had the same thing with my swampers....I forgot to post this....The reason mine did it maybe same for you...Our Trucks arent heavy enough to keep them down all the time..the tires were to heavy for the truck..We put them on a Full size and they ride like a dream..So big tires on a light truck aint always good but hell im still gonna do it again
#12
Originally Posted by Rand
Most likely you will have to spring for the "camber adjustment kits"
runs about 100$ for both sides.
Most shops will install them free as part of an alignment if they are needed.
ASK ME HOW I KNOW!
Rand
runs about 100$ for both sides.
Most shops will install them free as part of an alignment if they are needed.
ASK ME HOW I KNOW!
Rand
#14
mine do the same thing, though it seems when i crank the front end off of the ground on a jack the tires toe in, and when put down toe back out, so shouldnt it wear the outside of the tire more with the tbar crank? looking at our suspension setup i would think it would work the opposite way but thats what ive noticed. because they toe out when the suspension compresses i would guess that the wear on the inside would be from braking, since thats when the most force to change anything is on the tires.
#15
Originally Posted by InsanelySane
mine do the same thing, though it seems when i crank the front end off of the ground on a jack the tires toe in, and when put down toe back out, so shouldnt it wear the outside of the tire more with the tbar crank? looking at our suspension setup i would think it would work the opposite way but thats what ive noticed. because they toe out when the suspension compresses i would guess that the wear on the inside would be from braking, since thats when the most force to change anything is on the tires.
Like this but not as pronounced -> / \
This causes rapid wear to the insides of the front tires.
When the torsion bars are cranked to raise the front of the truck, the static suspension height moves into the negative camber range. The higher you crank them, the worse the problem becomes.
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Originally Posted by gatorblue92
i always thought that when you cranked the t-bars you got positive camber like this \ / and wear on the outside of ther tires and if you let them out to lower the truck you got netigive camber like this / \ and inside tire wear
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