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BF Goodrich AT/KO's Vs. General Grabber AT2's

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Icon5 BF Goodrich AT/KO's Vs. General Grabber AT2's

Alright...I'm looking for a meaty tire that will get me from home, to work, to where ever I want to go (within reason...) I've had the AT/KO's on an other vehicle I owned, and NEVER got stuck or lost traction. BUT, the AT2's are cheaper...and have a better review on Tirerack.com. Plus a friend has them on his ranger and likes them. Also, I'm thinking about going from the stock 255/70R16's to the available 265/75SR16. What do you more-experienced peoples think about that?
 
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I've never used the AT2's but I LOVE my BFG's. BFG also has so much more of a brand repuatation then General, but hey that doesn't matter sometimes.
 
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Yeah, I loved my BFG's, too...but I'm strapped for cash. I'm afraid I'll be paying for the NAME, not the tire, should I go with the AT/KO's. But then again, I don't want to buy a "paper" tire. I want some feedback, is all.
 
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FMD stands behind them 100% so im sure hell add some input
 
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So....which one does FMD back? BFG, or General? I don't quite understand your post....
 
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My next dilemma is this: I want a bigger tire...even just a cople inches to make my truck a BIT taller. I don't have the money, nor the time to lift it properly...but I had an older ranger with larger-than-stock tires on it, and it looks decent, so I plan on doing the same to this one....BUT, what can I fit? Also, the BFGs range from 265/70sR16 to 265/75R16, but the General Grabbers are only available in the 265/70 size. I'm torn bewteen price, reliability, and size....gah!
 
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My opinion, go with the General, in a 265/70/16. If you want the front lifted, do a torsion bar crank. Now, I have the BFG AT on my ranger and I like them, but not enough to spend that kind of money to buy them again. Now, this is just an opinion, as I HAVE NOT ran the general tire.

Now, when I say I wouldnt pay that kind of money for the BFG again, is ONLY because the tire did not fit my intentions. It was a very very good all around tire but I was looking for something for more mud use, and light highway driving, not the other way around. Again, this is just an opinion
 
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265/70sR16 (.27 lift in height) - BFG: $167 each / AT2: $100 each
265/75R16 (.79 lift in height) - BFG: $163 each / AT2: Unavailable through TireRack.com

I'd LIKE the maximum lift, plus I've been told by a tire guy in a local garage that I trust that 265/75 is the max I'd want to TRY to fit in a stock wheel well on an 06 ranger. But I don't like the price....
 
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Originally Posted by TSabourin
So....which one does FMD back? BFG, or General? I don't quite understand your post....
sorry, he likes the general at2's.... discovery atr's are really nice also,we have them on our work trucks and they do really well
 
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the BFG's are tried and true.....i can personally attest to you will get atleast over 50,000 miles out of a set of BFG A/T's.....
 
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I like the BFG's, not the price tag. I like the price of the AT2's, but not the size. Any other suggestions for a decent, bigger tire, that'll fit in my wheel-well, and also fit into my budget?
 
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Kuhmo Road Venture At in a 265/75/16 is a good price, and also the Yokohama Geolander A/t comes in the same size for a decent price.
 
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Well, I'd like a meaty tire. I live on a Private District road....which means the town doesn't like us, which means we fend for ourselves in the winter....which means that our road: Washes out in the spring, turns to dust and ruts in the summer, is covered in wet leaves and ruts in the fall, and is rarely plowed in the winter...and if it IS plowed, there's usually a sheet of ice under it. Soooo, I'd like to see something LIKE the BFG's or the Grabber AT's on my truck. I wrecked her once already because I lost my grip on the road, I'd rather not do it again.
 
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I have had a set of the Road Venture A/T's and they were a pretty good tire. I had them on a 1/2 ton chevy when I lived in Kansas and we had to deal with alot of snow, and black ice. The tire gripped well for what they were. But, I know what your saying, and being on the budget, I would stick with the Grabber A/T's and deal with the height difference.
 
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I might just do that......I'll just have to win the lottery one of these days, and THEN slap some big tires on my little daily driver. Ha...
 
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265/70sR16 (.27 lift in height) - BFG: $167 each / AT2: $100 each
265/75R16 (.79 lift in height) - BFG: $163 each / AT2: Unavailable through TireRack.com

I'd LIKE the maximum lift, plus I've been told by a tire guy in a local garage that I trust that 265/75 is the max I'd want to TRY to fit in a stock wheel well on an 06 ranger. But I don't like the price....
You can fit a 33x10.50x15 no problem, so whatever the metric version would be since you're a 16 inch rim. I think the metric version would result in around a 11.5 inch wide tire, which should still be fine. Go up to a 12.50 inch tire and you'll get rubbing at full lock, at the least on your sway bar. Of course with a 12.50 inch wide tire you'd probably want wider rims too, 8-10 inch wide rims. Though they (12.50) can be fit on 7 inch wide rims.
 
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I may be wrong, but I believe the front valance on an '06 is too close to put anything TOO large in there for a tire. The tire guy at that garage took some approx. measurements and figured on the 265/75's being safe....he may have been covering his own a**, though. I dunno, I'm kinda settling on the idea of slapping the Grabbers on there and going with the slight lift for the right price.
 
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I may be wrong, but I believe the front valance on an '06 is too close to put anything TOO large in there for a tire. The tire guy at that garage took some approx. measurements and figured on the 265/75's being safe....he may have been covering his own a**, though. I dunno, I'm kinda settling on the idea of slapping the Grabbers on there and going with the slight lift for the right price.
Your valence is the same thing my 04 has. I, and many others, have fit 33x10.50x15 with no issues.
 
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Alright, so I AM wrong...heh. But i'm sure I can't afford 33's, anyway.
 
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you could always go with 31s or 32s. The FX4 Level II package (glorified 4x4 package) comes stock with 31x10.50x15. You should be able to find 31inch BFG ATs for around 140, possibly less.
 
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I have stock 16" rims. Again, I don't have the money to buy new rims AND tires. The BFG's consider the 16" rim a fullsize truck tire. There is no LT rating, and the tires are the heavier duty... Unfortunately, more rubber means more moolah. At least that's what I've been told/been running into lately.
 
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Go with the BFG's. The tread is designed to shed the snow. They are for sure the only tire that i'll ever own. Everyone I know has had sidewall issues with the General Tires. I'd say in the long run the BFG's are going to serve you best!!!

I got my 31x10.50x15 at Hibdon Tires Plus here in Oklahoma for 105 a peice after I made them price match Sams club..By the way they have great prices on tires.
 
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go with the BFG's or check out cooper tires... a few folks here have gad good luck with them
 
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If you're worried about traveling unplowed roads I suggest getting a narrow tire.Wide tires are made to give floatation on mud/soft ground.For snow that is the last thing you want.
Every winter I'm pulling out these idiots who come here from everywhere with lifted trucks pulling snowmobile trailers or have sleds in the bed,and the common thing with almost all of them is big ,wide tires.
I've been plowing here for twenty years where we get from 6 inches to 5 feet of snow at a rip.Skinny tire is the way to go.
 
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I've had both on my Ranger and in my opinion the Grabbers are far better then the BFG's. I take my truck down trails just about every weekend and I've never been stuck. Another thing is you'll get just as much life out of the grabbers as you will the bfg's. My dad has the grabbers on his truck and hes put about 60k miles on them and they probably could go for another 5-10k.
 



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