rngprerunners Project Log: Stock to Not
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#231
Originally Posted by firefighterjosh
Thing is sweet. I have some cathcing up to do on teh reading but Looks like it has came a long long ways. Maybe you already posted but how much travel you going to get?
#232
Originally Posted by Trevelyn1015
does someone need a ranger-forums sticker to be stragically placed in a picture for the magazine? hmmmm? lol
it's looking pretty fancy, jason! keep up the good work. i'm ready to see that truck jumping through the air.
it's looking pretty fancy, jason! keep up the good work. i'm ready to see that truck jumping through the air.
Actually... there are two. And yup, they may just end up in the magazine
Speaking of which, I may need two more, but thats another conversation.
#234
Originally Posted by rngprerunner
I did say it above, but it is bumped/strapped at 28". I can, "can", get 37" of travel out of it, with both a clean pinion angle and driveshaft plunge. But that is with only a 16" coilover and no bypass. Also it wouldn't work worth an ****, anyway read above if you want to know more of why it is stopped at 28".
Do not repsond if you already stated this but is there any plans for the front? Seems like now the front wont keep up
#235
Originally Posted by firefighterjosh
Thanks, I will admit I have not read it for a about a week now and need to play catch up on my reading.
Do not repsond if you already stated this but is there any plans for the front? Seems like now the front wont keep up
Do not repsond if you already stated this but is there any plans for the front? Seems like now the front wont keep up
Nope, no more plans for the front. Just new bushings, greese zirks (Aaron adds these now, but didn't when I got mine), and fix the steering. I have the front so dialed in that it should keep me happy for a long while. I do have plans though, for the distant future, but no plans of ever giving up the Dixon kit, I love it too much.
#237
Whoo! It's running! It looks awesome!
Jason, why did you choose to mount the coilovers to one of the links? It seems to me you might run the chance of bending one of those things straight in half if you had some bad luck. Those links DO look like they're pretty well beefed up. I just don't have any real-life experience with this sort of thing to know if it'll hold up to the kinds of stresses that your truck will likely be seeing. Is it so that you can get more travel out of the axle with a shorter coilover?
Oh, and what's the damage to the wallet for this project?
Jason, why did you choose to mount the coilovers to one of the links? It seems to me you might run the chance of bending one of those things straight in half if you had some bad luck. Those links DO look like they're pretty well beefed up. I just don't have any real-life experience with this sort of thing to know if it'll hold up to the kinds of stresses that your truck will likely be seeing. Is it so that you can get more travel out of the axle with a shorter coilover?
Oh, and what's the damage to the wallet for this project?
#239
kyle, for one, where else would he put em, really? He could mount them to the axle... but then the travel would be severely limited.
& and are you worried about bending the link in half, or the shock shaft? I'm going to assume you meant the link... and yeah, they're built pretty beefy for a reason
& and are you worried about bending the link in half, or the shock shaft? I'm going to assume you meant the link... and yeah, they're built pretty beefy for a reason
#240
Originally Posted by Drayke
kyle, for one, where else would he put em, really? He could mount them to the axle... but then the travel would be severely limited.
& and are you worried about bending the link in half, or the shock shaft? I'm going to assume you meant the link... and yeah, they're built pretty beefy for a reason
& and are you worried about bending the link in half, or the shock shaft? I'm going to assume you meant the link... and yeah, they're built pretty beefy for a reason
This is the first "desert truck" that I've seen in real detail, so I'm just trying my best to analyze it and compare it to the other trucks I see (namely rock crawlers). There are obvious differences and I'm just making sure I'm putting two and two together and still getting four.
#241
Originally Posted by Gearhead61
This is the first "desert truck" that I've seen in real detail, so I'm just trying my best to analyze it and compare it to the other trucks I see (namely rock crawlers). There are obvious differences and I'm just making sure I'm putting two and two together and still getting four.
You are right in thinking that, it is a high stress point.
95% of desert trucks mount the links of the trailing arm. It's better for travel, spring rate (its hard to get soft enough springs to really set up a 1:1 ratio off the axle), and packaging.
If you look at how trailing arms are made you will see how they can withstand such a load. These ones are made with 1 3/4" DOM heavy wall tubing for the base, 3/16" steel sides and 1/8" double plated top, and it has internal gussets for support. And these arn't even the most beefy arms on the market.
A couple more things to think about when looking at the load placed on these arms is the actual weight of the truck. The rear of this truck weighs nothing. We are talking maybe 1000 lbs tops. Also consider that there are only two bolts holding the weight of the truck, two 1/2" bolts. Sure they are Grade 8 but still. I think you are thinking bigger than what I actually have here. Plus the fact that the system is always moving, there is never really an end point where the force culminates. Now if something breaks, like say a bumpstop, then there could be issues because the force now has to go someplace else, someplace its not designed to go.
Basically there is not right or wrong way to mount the coilovers (in regards to placement). I have ridden in trucks linked off the axle and in trucks linked off the trailing arm, both work well. And to this point I have yet to actually see a trailing arm snap in half.
I'm sure that didn't make sense, but I hope it helps at least a little.
Oh, and what's the damage to the wallet for this project?
#242
Updates from Day 31 and 32 are up!
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#243
Day 33 Updates are here at last!
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You can see them HERE
or here
http://blogs.off-roadweb.com/6211212...ild/index.html
or here
http://blogs.off-roadweb.com
#245
Originally Posted by rngprerunner
You are right in thinking that, it is a high stress point.
95% of desert trucks mount the links of the trailing arm. It's better for travel, spring rate (its hard to get soft enough springs to really set up a 1:1 ratio off the axle), and packaging.
If you look at how trailing arms are made you will see how they can withstand such a load. These ones are made with 1 3/4" DOM heavy wall tubing for the base, 3/16" steel sides and 1/8" double plated top, and it has internal gussets for support. And these arn't even the most beefy arms on the market.
A couple more things to think about when looking at the load placed on these arms is the actual weight of the truck. The rear of this truck weighs nothing. We are talking maybe 1000 lbs tops. Also consider that there are only two bolts holding the weight of the truck, two 1/2" bolts. Sure they are Grade 8 but still. I think you are thinking bigger than what I actually have here. Plus the fact that the system is always moving, there is never really an end point where the force culminates. Now if something breaks, like say a bumpstop, then there could be issues because the force now has to go someplace else, someplace its not designed to go.
Basically there is not right or wrong way to mount the coilovers (in regards to placement). I have ridden in trucks linked off the axle and in trucks linked off the trailing arm, both work well. And to this point I have yet to actually see a trailing arm snap in half.
I'm sure that didn't make sense, but I hope it helps at least a little.
You really don't want to know. Think GNP of a small country.
95% of desert trucks mount the links of the trailing arm. It's better for travel, spring rate (its hard to get soft enough springs to really set up a 1:1 ratio off the axle), and packaging.
If you look at how trailing arms are made you will see how they can withstand such a load. These ones are made with 1 3/4" DOM heavy wall tubing for the base, 3/16" steel sides and 1/8" double plated top, and it has internal gussets for support. And these arn't even the most beefy arms on the market.
A couple more things to think about when looking at the load placed on these arms is the actual weight of the truck. The rear of this truck weighs nothing. We are talking maybe 1000 lbs tops. Also consider that there are only two bolts holding the weight of the truck, two 1/2" bolts. Sure they are Grade 8 but still. I think you are thinking bigger than what I actually have here. Plus the fact that the system is always moving, there is never really an end point where the force culminates. Now if something breaks, like say a bumpstop, then there could be issues because the force now has to go someplace else, someplace its not designed to go.
Basically there is not right or wrong way to mount the coilovers (in regards to placement). I have ridden in trucks linked off the axle and in trucks linked off the trailing arm, both work well. And to this point I have yet to actually see a trailing arm snap in half.
I'm sure that didn't make sense, but I hope it helps at least a little.
You really don't want to know. Think GNP of a small country.
#246
Originally Posted by winks
Why/when would you have to remove your bedsides?
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