Starting problem, never seen this before...
#1
Starting problem, never seen this before...
Hey guys, so check this one out.
went out to my truck, got in, turned the key, everything lights up like normal. turn the key to start, nothing. As in the truck goes into the on setting of the computer, and you can push it to the start spot and you get no noise, clicks or crank. Loads of power, it has a brand new optima yellow top.
Its done it twice on me, only when cold from what i can see.
when i left my gf's last night i went out, turned the key and held it on start. i counted to 4 and suddenly the truck cranked and fired up. turned it off right away, tried it again, fired up like it normally would no delay.
Anybody know whats up with this? its like it has to stop and think about the task at hand before it says OH! i need to start now.
ill see if i can get a video of this.
went out to my truck, got in, turned the key, everything lights up like normal. turn the key to start, nothing. As in the truck goes into the on setting of the computer, and you can push it to the start spot and you get no noise, clicks or crank. Loads of power, it has a brand new optima yellow top.
Its done it twice on me, only when cold from what i can see.
when i left my gf's last night i went out, turned the key and held it on start. i counted to 4 and suddenly the truck cranked and fired up. turned it off right away, tried it again, fired up like it normally would no delay.
Anybody know whats up with this? its like it has to stop and think about the task at hand before it says OH! i need to start now.
ill see if i can get a video of this.
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#6
maybe i should better explain this. its like getting into a truck or car with manual transmission, and trying to start it without pushing in the clutch. nothing happens when you hold it on start. like nothing as in no noise, no movement. i held it without letting off once, had 4 seconds of silence, and the truck suddenly cranked.
thats something beyond a basic bad connection, or it wouldnt work at all.
thats something beyond a basic bad connection, or it wouldnt work at all.
#8
also today was the coldest in a few weeks and it didnt do it so it must not be temp related.
#11
you need a new starter. plain and simple. what you have is worn pinion bushings allowing the armature to contact the field coils inside the starter. instead of spinning and pushing the pinion gear out into the flywheel the armature is dropping onto the coil and "sticking" to it. the reason it suddenly starts after holding the key for several seconds? because you are applying constant amperage and the starter will start drawing more and more amperage from the battery until it either starts smoking or turns the armature. why will it start right away sometimes when shut off and turned back on? because the coil and armature are coated in a thin plastic like coating. the armature may not have the coating worn through all the way around, basically it leaves you with a "dead" spot in the stater motor.
#14
Not a starter problem if you don't here a click from your starter relay, plain and simple.
Is your truck an automatic? Sometimes the neutral safety switch is in a dead spot and and the gear shifter is not fully seated in park and it thinks its still in reverse. Thats why you said its similar to not pushing in a clutch. These switches place an open circuit to the starter relay ground. So if the clutch is not pushed in or the automatic transmission is not fully in park or neutral you starter relay won't click and the starter solenoid won't receive power.
Next time it happens wiggle the shifter or put it in neutral to see if it starts.
Is your truck an automatic? Sometimes the neutral safety switch is in a dead spot and and the gear shifter is not fully seated in park and it thinks its still in reverse. Thats why you said its similar to not pushing in a clutch. These switches place an open circuit to the starter relay ground. So if the clutch is not pushed in or the automatic transmission is not fully in park or neutral you starter relay won't click and the starter solenoid won't receive power.
Next time it happens wiggle the shifter or put it in neutral to see if it starts.
#16
Not a starter problem if you don't here a click from your starter relay, plain and simple.
Is your truck an automatic? Sometimes the neutral safety switch is in a dead spot and and the gear shifter is not fully seated in park and it thinks its still in reverse. Thats why you said its similar to not pushing in a clutch. These switches place an open circuit to the starter relay ground. So if the clutch is not pushed in or the automatic transmission is not fully in park or neutral you starter relay won't click and the starter solenoid won't receive power.
Next time it happens wiggle the shifter or put it in neutral to see if it starts.
Is your truck an automatic? Sometimes the neutral safety switch is in a dead spot and and the gear shifter is not fully seated in park and it thinks its still in reverse. Thats why you said its similar to not pushing in a clutch. These switches place an open circuit to the starter relay ground. So if the clutch is not pushed in or the automatic transmission is not fully in park or neutral you starter relay won't click and the starter solenoid won't receive power.
Next time it happens wiggle the shifter or put it in neutral to see if it starts.
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