View Poll Results: What Bar
Voters: 12. You may not vote on this poll
Safari Bar OR Wag Bar
#8
Talk to Rand about it. He was going on about loosing his hooks when installing his bar. I thought he had a bar that looked pretty close to that Waag though. That pict looks to be of an LII (w/ the stainless hooks). Maybe the hooks are mounted different on the '02 and earlier ORP than on the LII?!? Me = confused as usual!
#9
#10
Yeah, but my bar is badass! b8)d
I've actually never got hung up on it (yet!). I've yet to encounter anything that a little bit of the go peddle couldn't fix in 4Lo! ;-) Then again, I don't push the truck quite as hard as you do John.
That James Duff bar looks pretty weak. I'd be interested to see exactly how it mounts. Mine mounts to the frame under the bumper and valance. It wraps around the valance and the bar's frame makes a large J type shape. The upper/front part of the bar is not directly supported in any way. Overall I'm not all that impressed at how mine mounts. I've seen others that attach as mine do, plus have a strap that goes between the bumper and grill trim. Although that doesn't really do it for me either. I don't think it is possible to make a solid mount, w/o restricting clearance AND w/o disturbing the tow hooks and/or valance. I think you're on the right track by just ripping the valance clear off!
I've actually never got hung up on it (yet!). I've yet to encounter anything that a little bit of the go peddle couldn't fix in 4Lo! ;-) Then again, I don't push the truck quite as hard as you do John.
That James Duff bar looks pretty weak. I'd be interested to see exactly how it mounts. Mine mounts to the frame under the bumper and valance. It wraps around the valance and the bar's frame makes a large J type shape. The upper/front part of the bar is not directly supported in any way. Overall I'm not all that impressed at how mine mounts. I've seen others that attach as mine do, plus have a strap that goes between the bumper and grill trim. Although that doesn't really do it for me either. I don't think it is possible to make a solid mount, w/o restricting clearance AND w/o disturbing the tow hooks and/or valance. I think you're on the right track by just ripping the valance clear off!
#11
#13
Well, it's a light bar, Colin, not a bumper!
You can push over your bar in most cases -- but you're going to damage it if you try that on rocks in particular -- but if you don't care, well alright then! I've just never seen a compelling argument for wrapping something around underneath the truck to in order to mount lights -- and the protection most of those bars provide is pretty weak anyway.
If the Duff bar uses the factory bumper mount area's to mount, it'll be plenty strong anyway. Most of their stuff is NOT wimpy. Small tubing is not necessarily WEAK tubing.
You can push over your bar in most cases -- but you're going to damage it if you try that on rocks in particular -- but if you don't care, well alright then! I've just never seen a compelling argument for wrapping something around underneath the truck to in order to mount lights -- and the protection most of those bars provide is pretty weak anyway.
If the Duff bar uses the factory bumper mount area's to mount, it'll be plenty strong anyway. Most of their stuff is NOT wimpy. Small tubing is not necessarily WEAK tubing.
#14
The JD one above? He's got a couple of them (w/ and w/o winches, receivers, etc) part way down this page:
http://www.jamesduff.com/broncoII/recovery.html
Would love to see your end results if it ends up being half as nice as the sliders..
http://www.jamesduff.com/broncoII/recovery.html
Would love to see your end results if it ends up being half as nice as the sliders..
#16
Yeah, my bar is 99.9% for looks. I'm sure a few of you have heard my story: I went to Texas for a wedding a few years back, saw these bars everywhere, and just decided I had to have one! Silly narcism in the end. But what the hell, you only live once! ... I blame the Texans. ;-)
Besides, as I said, I don't miss the clearance much and am not overly concerned w/ how it holds up in an impact. I figure worst case it doesn't hurt anything (for my needs). Different srokes for different folks in the end..
Were I to get more into off-roading, which I doubt I will w/ a late model truck, I could easily remove it. I'm sure I could get a few bux for it locally.
And my concern isn't for the strength of the bar, but for the strength of the mount. As I said, I think the only way to do it right is to go right through the valance to the frame. But I'm no expert. Just my $0.02..
Besides, as I said, I don't miss the clearance much and am not overly concerned w/ how it holds up in an impact. I figure worst case it doesn't hurt anything (for my needs). Different srokes for different folks in the end..
Were I to get more into off-roading, which I doubt I will w/ a late model truck, I could easily remove it. I'm sure I could get a few bux for it locally.
And my concern isn't for the strength of the bar, but for the strength of the mount. As I said, I think the only way to do it right is to go right through the valance to the frame. But I'm no expert. Just my $0.02..
#17
Originally Posted by n3elz
Can you say "big hydraulic tubing bender"?
I have access to one, Tom.
I have access to one, Tom.