Buyin a ranger, potential clutch problem?
#1
Buyin a ranger, potential clutch problem?
So I checked out this ranger today and I think I finally found the right one! Here it is:
http://www.bargainnews.com/viewad.cf...947&TheDealer=
It has 118,000 miles on it, its very clean in and out. The only thing that bothered me that is keeping me wondering is the clutch. It has a LOT of freeplay in it. The clutch grabs about 3/4 of the way out, IT seems to be way too much. The pedal has to be almost all of the way extended out before it engages. He told me that it has been like that since he bought it (18,000 miles ago from a ford dealer). That is not normal correct? Could it be a potential slave cylinder problem? Maybe it needs a new clutch? Or just adjustments? What do you think is it worth the $7k even with that problem? Thank you for your input.
http://www.bargainnews.com/viewad.cf...947&TheDealer=
It has 118,000 miles on it, its very clean in and out. The only thing that bothered me that is keeping me wondering is the clutch. It has a LOT of freeplay in it. The clutch grabs about 3/4 of the way out, IT seems to be way too much. The pedal has to be almost all of the way extended out before it engages. He told me that it has been like that since he bought it (18,000 miles ago from a ford dealer). That is not normal correct? Could it be a potential slave cylinder problem? Maybe it needs a new clutch? Or just adjustments? What do you think is it worth the $7k even with that problem? Thank you for your input.
#5
That is normal. Mine did it with the original clutch and still does it with a new clutch that has 15,000 miles on it. All Fords seem to engage like that. My 92' F-150 did the same thing with a new clutch and slave. The clutch system is hydraulic so it adjusts by itself. $7K seems to be a good price. KBB lists it at $10,200 in excellent condition.
#7
Ok good, I am going for it then!
KBB in my area is 7600 for excellent condition:
http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/PricingReport.aspx?YearId=2003&Mileage=118000&Vehi cleClass=UsedCar&ManufacturerId=15&ModelId=111&Pri ceType=Private+Party&VehicleId=2409&SelectionHisto ry=2409|29741|06422|0|0|93600|true|93618|true|9364 0|true|540102|true&Condition=Good&QuizConditions=
KBB in my area is 7600 for excellent condition:
http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/PricingReport.aspx?YearId=2003&Mileage=118000&Vehi cleClass=UsedCar&ManufacturerId=15&ModelId=111&Pri ceType=Private+Party&VehicleId=2409&SelectionHisto ry=2409|29741|06422|0|0|93600|true|93618|true|9364 0|true|540102|true&Condition=Good&QuizConditions=
#10
I spent over $1000 having my clutch and slave replaced on a 4x4. Real PITA. Exhaust has to be dropped, front and rear driveshafts, transfer case and everything all has to come out. The slave is inside the bellhousing, so you or your mechanic are idiots if you do not replace the slave when replacing the clutch because the slaves are known for seizing.
#11
#12
My dad and I did a clutch swap in the driveway. New flywheel and inner bearing clutch and slave (slave comes in the kit) was like $300 total and a weekend of work. One night of not having my truck. We worked pretty slow too. I was doing most of the work and my dad was supervising. He's getting old. haha.
I dont know where my truck grabs. I never really pay attention except when I'm towing.
I dont know where my truck grabs. I never really pay attention except when I'm towing.
#13
x2.
#14
Ok sounds good then I will do that. I could probably have one of my buddies help me figure it out too. That makes me feel better too because he wouldn't budge on the price. I am buying it for sure during the week!! Im siked! I am going to order a flowmaster muffler, which one is the best sounding for a 4.0? I am not concerned about performance it seemed to have some good power stock, I know to actually get performance out of the flowmaster you also need headers, intake, and highflow cat, but for now I just want it to sound sick, like that deep throaty sound. Which muffler?
#16
Heres the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_RSEZ3wDgQ
What can I get that is louder?
It could just be the sound quality on my crappy laptop speakers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_RSEZ3wDgQ
What can I get that is louder?
It could just be the sound quality on my crappy laptop speakers.
Last edited by rizoss16; 01-04-2009 at 07:34 AM.
#17
I put on headphones and the vids sound better, I think I will go with the 44 series since I have read its a bit louder. This is my first mod since its the cheapest. Mods to come are: 3" bl, 32" BFG ATs, CA intake, darker tints, highflow cat.
Is there a certain size muffler to order? The exhaust is stock all I will do is cut off the stock muffler and throw the flowmaster on with some clamps.
The 44 series muffler is only $80 on ebay, what size do I order for stock pipe, is it the 2.25?
Is there a certain size muffler to order? The exhaust is stock all I will do is cut off the stock muffler and throw the flowmaster on with some clamps.
The 44 series muffler is only $80 on ebay, what size do I order for stock pipe, is it the 2.25?
#18
I put on headphones and the vids sound better, I think I will go with the 44 series since I have read its a bit louder. This is my first mod since its the cheapest. Mods to come are: 3" bl, 32" BFG ATs, CA intake, darker tints, high flow cat.
Is there a certain size muffler to order? The exhaust is stock all I will do is cut off the stock muffler and throw the flowmaster on with some clamps.
The 44 series muffler is only $80 on ebay, what size do I order for stock pipe, is it the 2.25?
Is there a certain size muffler to order? The exhaust is stock all I will do is cut off the stock muffler and throw the flowmaster on with some clamps.
The 44 series muffler is only $80 on ebay, what size do I order for stock pipe, is it the 2.25?
#20
I think I'm going to wait on the clutch until spring when its a little warmer because I don't have a garage, It will be a driveway deal, and most likely need to sit over night so has to be a clear weekend. I think It will hold out the guy said that the clutch has grabbed like it does now ever since he bought it from the dealer 18,000 miles ago.
#22
If you want loud just run a short length and then a turn down after the last cats. Or, if you want even louder, after the last O2 sensor.
Buy a Haynes manual to help walk you through the clutch swap.
Some tips I can give you:
either have the front end of the truck lower than the back or be prepared with some plastic bags and some tape when you pull the drive shaft. (gear lube will dribble out of the back)
While the drive shaft is out, inspect it for damage and the balance weight. I was friends with a kid in HS who's dad was also my teacher, so I shot the **** with him in class a lot and he told me that his balance weight fell off and he couldnt figure out the vibrations until the slave cylinder got gummed up and he took it to the auto mechanics class and they saw that it was missing.
Buy a quart of gear lube and a pump, just in case.
A motorcycle jack or transmission jack makes putting the tranny back in 1000% easier.
If the clutch fluid is terrible, drain it, replace it, and bleed it. Otherwise, there is no need to bleed with the quick disconnects on the slave.
If there is hazing on your flywheel, have it turned or replaced. Lucky me was doing the swap on a sunday so the machine shop wasnt open so I had to buy an $80 flywheel.
Buy a Haynes manual to help walk you through the clutch swap.
Some tips I can give you:
either have the front end of the truck lower than the back or be prepared with some plastic bags and some tape when you pull the drive shaft. (gear lube will dribble out of the back)
While the drive shaft is out, inspect it for damage and the balance weight. I was friends with a kid in HS who's dad was also my teacher, so I shot the **** with him in class a lot and he told me that his balance weight fell off and he couldnt figure out the vibrations until the slave cylinder got gummed up and he took it to the auto mechanics class and they saw that it was missing.
Buy a quart of gear lube and a pump, just in case.
A motorcycle jack or transmission jack makes putting the tranny back in 1000% easier.
If the clutch fluid is terrible, drain it, replace it, and bleed it. Otherwise, there is no need to bleed with the quick disconnects on the slave.
If there is hazing on your flywheel, have it turned or replaced. Lucky me was doing the swap on a sunday so the machine shop wasnt open so I had to buy an $80 flywheel.
#24
once you buy the truck, FIX THE CLUTCH FIRST. Don't be silly and throw money away on mods right off the bat and then come back crying that your truck is broken because you have no clutch and can't afford to fix it.
After your clutch is fixed and the truck is mechanically sound, install a cat-back exhaust system. Keeps the stock exhaust manifolds and cats and replaces everything from behind the cats with larger piping and a free-flowing muffler. It will not affect your emissions in any way shape or form and will keep you legal and still pass.
To get some more noise that you want, install a cold air intake as well. They help add to the deep throaty sound and sound pretty sweet when you stomp on the gas.
After your clutch is fixed and the truck is mechanically sound, install a cat-back exhaust system. Keeps the stock exhaust manifolds and cats and replaces everything from behind the cats with larger piping and a free-flowing muffler. It will not affect your emissions in any way shape or form and will keep you legal and still pass.
To get some more noise that you want, install a cold air intake as well. They help add to the deep throaty sound and sound pretty sweet when you stomp on the gas.