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Slammer67's SAS Thread

Well I finally got underway with the SAS project. It's a dana 44/ford 9" swap with leaf springs.

I've been dreaming of doing an SAS since I got this truck 3 years ago. I've spent the last year in the "planning and gathering parts stage". Two weeks ago I finally got tired of waiting and pulled the truck in the shop and started on the swap.

heres some "before" pics

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How much higher are you going to make the truck?
 
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First a little history on the truck. It's a 95 supercab 4x4 that I bought 3 years ago from a high school kid for $600- so cheap because the kid ran it out of oil and it wouldn't start (obviously) so the truck sat in the yard for 6 months till I got around to rebuilding the 4.0.

I really liked the looks of the prerunner rangers with fiberglass fenders and such so I started building it to look like that. I bought some 'glass fenders and pulled out the rear fenders about as far as they would stretch. I built some bumpers and a roll bar and drove it around for about a year like that (with white fenders even)

Then the M50d 5-speed started acting up, I replaced the clutch, but it never did shift right so I looked into doing a tranny swap. I wanted an auto, but heard bad things about the al4d's so i went the c-5 route. I bought a b2 c-5 and bw1350 setup off e-bay foy $250 shipped. Then I started seeing articles about doublers for rangers, and since I already had 2 transfer cases....

I got the D.D. machine kit and did the c-5/doubler swap of course i had all this gearing and was still running basically stock suspension with 31's-pathetic, I know.

I got tired of all the "your truck looks cool, but it needs bigger tires" comments. Actually, I was waiting for a good deal to come by on some axles because I decided long ago I wasn't going to spend any mony on the ttb axls or lifting it. I'm glad I waited.

Then I found a guy in town who had a waggy d44/ford 9 set with 5.13's and spools in both diffs. I traded some 38" super swampers I had plus $500, so it ended up costing me about $800 for the axles

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I got the axles, a high steer arm, a heim jointed drag link and a set of ford 5-5-1/2" pattern rims for the deal. The guy had them on a cherokee, but was looking for some 1-ton axles. It turned out not to be that great of a deal as the axles needed some work-a broken u-joint, spindle bearings, a rear axle bearing, and someone really messed up the front gear setup, so that needs to be redone.
 
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This SAS project is very budget minded. I wish I could do a 4-link/coilover setup running some 37's, but that's not gonna be possible on my budget.

So I'm doing a leaf setup, I'm even going to a foreward shackle setup for now because it's the cheapest way to go.

I want to run some 35's, but right now I have some 33's on the truck because I had those tires already.

I built all of my own leaf, shackle and shock mounts. I'm a high school drafting and metals teacher so I did most of the work after school and weekends in the shop.

I went with some toyota truck leaf springs for the front springs and I'm using stock rears right now. I added a leaf to the toyota springs, but it still needs more. I only got about 5" of lift initially, which might be a contender for the lowest SAS here, but it's actually about right for the 33's I have on there now. here's one "after" pic

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i want closer pictures!

looks good though
 
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That looks like a fun build. I'm a front leaf spring bigot though -- especially when you have a truck that already had coils, lol. I also don't like front mounted shackles as they further stiffen the ride. I told you I was a bigot!

But to be more encouraging: it's a great project and the results are worth it.

To quote Lewis Carroll from the poem "The Walrus and the Carpenter":

And thick and fast they came at last, and more, and more, and more...

Which about describes the flood of Ranger SAS projects the last couple of years!
 
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Here's some pics of the front axle

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Caster setup
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Leaf mount
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My front diff guard
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Leaf and shock mounts
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The extra piece under the axle here is because I went with a square u-bolt setup

Cleaned up and ready to go
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I dont have many pics of the ford 9", somehow half the pics I took ended up too blurry to post.

anyway, on to the fun stuff

Front end stripped
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I never did like that ttb. never could get it aligned right- it always pulled to the right even after two alignments, the spindle nuts always came loose, harsh ride, not much travel....rant.

Now this is more like it
finding a new home
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Did you make that diff guard? Man, that thing looks like it would survive a nuclear holocaust! I like it. I have to do something on mine. The D44 I have has the "thick" cover -- not sheet metal. But it's still not rock quality, lol.
 
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The build up

supporting the front shackle hanger
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front shackle hangers
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I put two holes in the leaf hangers and shackle hangers to accomodate moving the axle foreward in the future and different length leafs

Leaf hangers
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I made the diff cover, It's solid 3/4" stock. It came out pretty beef, I made one for the 8.8 rear that I might want to sell someday.
 
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looks good man
 
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rear axle

heres a couple rear axle pics

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I made the pinion-guard too, I have a better pic somewhere, but cant find it right now.
 
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Nice job. I got one of the heavy aluminum diff covers off an IRS 8.8 Explorer for mine. It's pretty good armor.

I might have to take a shot at making my own protector as well. I'm not a great weldor but that's something I could do. So far my SAS hasn't fallen apart so I guess I'm not an awful weldor either, lol...
 
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Axle placement

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Figuring out where to put the leaf/shackle mounts
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You can see my square u-bolt setup here

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This is with weight on the springs, the leafs went inverted. I used stock toyota truck leafs and added a leaf, apparently not enough. Of course, most stock 80-84 toyotas ive seen ride like that too, but I wanted some arch to the springs. So my planned 7+ inches of lift turned out to be less than 5.
It'll work for now, but I'll get new springs this summer when I get the 35's
 
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You're right, I should gusset those leaf mounts
 
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I used the ranger rear shackles up front and made some longer shackles for the rear, but I cant find any of my pics of the rear shackle hangers right now.

Here's some pics of the rear shackle angle
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that's using stock ranger rear leafs, they're totally flat, I'll be doing something different for the rear springs in the future also.
 
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nice, check out me and my dads build.
 
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The flat to inverted type leaf is smoother and they're often done close to that on the fronts of trucks with them for ride quality.
 
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Nice and strong looking, Mark.
 
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Originally Posted by 04 EDGE
heres the front bracket's i fab'd up



got any pics of your steering?


looks like your penetration on those welds isnt much. you really should clean the rust off if you are using a MIG, flux core is usually ok with the crap but if you are using gas it really needs to be clean for a nice weld.
 



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