Automatic 4x4 light stays on
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Automatic 4x4 light stays on
Is this normal? I have only had this truck a short amount of time but the 4x4 light next to the switch sometimes stays on and sometimes goes off. I知 very worried because the 4x4 low light illuminated tonight while I was driving. I知 not sure if it even works. How can I test it?
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You will have this control system: https://therangerstation.com/tech_li...ol_module.html
I would test the 4WD system to see if it works
The switch on the dash doesn't control the lights, the module does
Both lights(4high/4low) get 12volts with key on, but are Grounded by the module to turn them on, so could be these wires are shorted to ground somewhere, insulation has worn away so it gets a partial ground now and then.
At the module you will see lots of wires, lol
Brown/white stripe wire should be the ground for 4low
Grey wire the ground for 4high
Not sure on the 1989 wiring colors
The way the system works.
On the transfer case is an electric motor that has a reduction gear that turns the transfer cases shift rod to its 3 positions, 2WD, 4High and 4Low
In the shift motors case is a contact wheel that turns with the shift rod, these contacts "tell" the control module the position of the shift rod, so module "knows" position of shift rod with Key on or when it moves the shift rod it can stop motor when "contacts" show correct position, 2WD, 4high or 4low
When shift rod is in the correct position, module THEN grounds the 4high or 4low light, or ungrounds both for 2WD, so when you select 4high there should be a delay until 4high light comes on, not much but a delay, longer delay for 4low because shift motor has to move shift rod farther
This thread shows pictures of shift motors various parts: https://www.explorerforum.com/forums...-motor.123542/
The Control Module will Flash 4WD lights if shift motor is not working or if contacts are incorrect when you try to use 4WD
The most common issue with this system was lack of use, and the electric shift motors brush and rotor losing contact, this can be avoided by shifting to 4low once a month, don't have to drive it, just shifting it from 2WD to 4high and then 4low and then back to 2WD sitting in the driveway, keeps the motor clean and usable for when you do need 4WD
So grab a volt/ohm meter and find your control module and start testing
You can shift into 4high while driving(under 50MPH), system has an electric clutch in the transfer case for that, and you can shift back to 2WD from 4high while driving
If you have automatic front hubs they will Lock when you shift into 4high while driving, but won't unlock when you go back to 2WD, not a big deal, when you stop and back up in 2WD the hubs should then unlock
To shift into 4low the module requires speed to be 0MPH, foot on the brake, and clutch pedal down all the way, with an automatic shifter must be in Neutral
I would test the 4WD system to see if it works
The switch on the dash doesn't control the lights, the module does
Both lights(4high/4low) get 12volts with key on, but are Grounded by the module to turn them on, so could be these wires are shorted to ground somewhere, insulation has worn away so it gets a partial ground now and then.
At the module you will see lots of wires, lol
Brown/white stripe wire should be the ground for 4low
Grey wire the ground for 4high
Not sure on the 1989 wiring colors
The way the system works.
On the transfer case is an electric motor that has a reduction gear that turns the transfer cases shift rod to its 3 positions, 2WD, 4High and 4Low
In the shift motors case is a contact wheel that turns with the shift rod, these contacts "tell" the control module the position of the shift rod, so module "knows" position of shift rod with Key on or when it moves the shift rod it can stop motor when "contacts" show correct position, 2WD, 4high or 4low
When shift rod is in the correct position, module THEN grounds the 4high or 4low light, or ungrounds both for 2WD, so when you select 4high there should be a delay until 4high light comes on, not much but a delay, longer delay for 4low because shift motor has to move shift rod farther
This thread shows pictures of shift motors various parts: https://www.explorerforum.com/forums...-motor.123542/
The Control Module will Flash 4WD lights if shift motor is not working or if contacts are incorrect when you try to use 4WD
The most common issue with this system was lack of use, and the electric shift motors brush and rotor losing contact, this can be avoided by shifting to 4low once a month, don't have to drive it, just shifting it from 2WD to 4high and then 4low and then back to 2WD sitting in the driveway, keeps the motor clean and usable for when you do need 4WD
So grab a volt/ohm meter and find your control module and start testing
You can shift into 4high while driving(under 50MPH), system has an electric clutch in the transfer case for that, and you can shift back to 2WD from 4high while driving
If you have automatic front hubs they will Lock when you shift into 4high while driving, but won't unlock when you go back to 2WD, not a big deal, when you stop and back up in 2WD the hubs should then unlock
To shift into 4low the module requires speed to be 0MPH, foot on the brake, and clutch pedal down all the way, with an automatic shifter must be in Neutral
Last edited by RonD; 02-01-2019 at 11:09 AM.
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You will have this control system: https://therangerstation.com/tech_li...ol_module.html
I would test the 4WD system to see if it works
The switch on the dash doesn't control the lights, the module does
Both lights(4high/4low) get 12volts with key on, but are Grounded by the module to turn them on, so could be these wires are shorted to ground somewhere, insulation has worn away so it gets a partial ground now and then.
At the module you will see lots of wires, lol
Brown/white stripe wire should be the ground for 4low
Grey wire the ground for 4high
Not sure on the 1989 wiring colors
The way the system works.
On the transfer case is an electric motor that has a reduction gear that turns the transfer cases shift rod to its 3 positions, 2WD, 4High and 4Low
In the shift motors case is a contact wheel that turns with the shift rod, these contacts "tell" the control module the position of the shift rod, so module "knows" position of shift rod with Key on or when it moves the shift rod it can stop motor when "contacts" show correct position, 2WD, 4high or 4low
When shift rod is in the correct position, module THEN grounds the 4high or 4low light, or ungrounds both for 2WD, so when you select 4high there should be a delay until 4high light comes on, not much but a delay, longer delay for 4low because shift motor has to move shift rod farther
This thread shows pictures of shift motors various parts: https://www.explorerforum.com/forums...-motor.123542/
The Control Module will Flash 4WD lights if shift motor is not working or if contacts are incorrect when you try to use 4WD
The most common issue with this system was lack of use, and the electric shift motors brush and rotor losing contact, this can be avoided by shifting to 4low once a month, don't have to drive it, just shifting it from 2WD to 4high and then 4low and then back to 2WD sitting in the driveway, keeps the motor clean and usable for when you do need 4WD
So grab a volt/ohm meter and find your control module and start testing
You can shift into 4high while driving(under 50MPH), system has an electric clutch in the transfer case for that, and you can shift back to 2WD from 4high while driving
If you have automatic front hubs they will Lock when you shift into 4high while driving, but won't unlock when you go back to 2WD, not a big deal, when you stop and back up in 2WD the hubs should then unlock
To shift into 4low the module requires speed to be 0MPH, foot on the brake, and clutch pedal down all the way, with an automatic shifter must be in Neutral
I would test the 4WD system to see if it works
The switch on the dash doesn't control the lights, the module does
Both lights(4high/4low) get 12volts with key on, but are Grounded by the module to turn them on, so could be these wires are shorted to ground somewhere, insulation has worn away so it gets a partial ground now and then.
At the module you will see lots of wires, lol
Brown/white stripe wire should be the ground for 4low
Grey wire the ground for 4high
Not sure on the 1989 wiring colors
The way the system works.
On the transfer case is an electric motor that has a reduction gear that turns the transfer cases shift rod to its 3 positions, 2WD, 4High and 4Low
In the shift motors case is a contact wheel that turns with the shift rod, these contacts "tell" the control module the position of the shift rod, so module "knows" position of shift rod with Key on or when it moves the shift rod it can stop motor when "contacts" show correct position, 2WD, 4high or 4low
When shift rod is in the correct position, module THEN grounds the 4high or 4low light, or ungrounds both for 2WD, so when you select 4high there should be a delay until 4high light comes on, not much but a delay, longer delay for 4low because shift motor has to move shift rod farther
This thread shows pictures of shift motors various parts: https://www.explorerforum.com/forums...-motor.123542/
The Control Module will Flash 4WD lights if shift motor is not working or if contacts are incorrect when you try to use 4WD
The most common issue with this system was lack of use, and the electric shift motors brush and rotor losing contact, this can be avoided by shifting to 4low once a month, don't have to drive it, just shifting it from 2WD to 4high and then 4low and then back to 2WD sitting in the driveway, keeps the motor clean and usable for when you do need 4WD
So grab a volt/ohm meter and find your control module and start testing
You can shift into 4high while driving(under 50MPH), system has an electric clutch in the transfer case for that, and you can shift back to 2WD from 4high while driving
If you have automatic front hubs they will Lock when you shift into 4high while driving, but won't unlock when you go back to 2WD, not a big deal, when you stop and back up in 2WD the hubs should then unlock
To shift into 4low the module requires speed to be 0MPH, foot on the brake, and clutch pedal down all the way, with an automatic shifter must be in Neutral
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Is this normal? I have only had this truck a short amount of time but the 4x4 light next to the switch sometimes stays on and sometimes goes off. I知 very worried because the 4x4 low light illuminated tonight while I was driving. I知 not sure if it even works. How can I test it?
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