2000 Ranger V8 swap major wiring issue - need EVTMs
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2000 Ranger V8 swap major wiring issue - need EVTMs
I was under the impression that the 99 Explorer 5.0L to 00 Ranger 3.0L was pretty much plug-n-play as far as wiring goes. Much to my dismay, this is far from true. When I turned the key a couple of weeks ago and found that I had no fuel pump prime, I suspected there would be a problem.
What I found is that of the 3 bulkhead connectors on the driver side firewall, all 3 are loaded with wires on the Explorer, but only 2 connectors are loaded on the Ranger (see pics below). On top of that, I found that almost none of the color coding matches between like positions from Explorer to Ranger, so I need schematics if I hope to ever finish this job....
I spent 12 hours yesterday pinning out the Explorer bulkheads thinking that I could probably then pin out the Ranger bulkheads and move the few wires that needed it. Within the first 15 wires on the Ranger, there were 5 wires I couldn't find yet and every position between the Explorer and Ranger bulkheads appear to be different.
The 2000 Ranger that I'm swapping has torsion bars up front rather than coils and my HVAC control is different than my other 2000 Ranger, so I believe that I may have 2001 interior wiring. As that may not be true either, I really needs EVTMs of these bulkheads for:
2000 Ranger 3.0L 5 speed 2WD
2001 Ranger 3.0L 5 speed 2WD
1999 Explorer or Mountaineer 5.0L AWD
RANGER #1
RANGER #2
EXPLORER
What I found is that of the 3 bulkhead connectors on the driver side firewall, all 3 are loaded with wires on the Explorer, but only 2 connectors are loaded on the Ranger (see pics below). On top of that, I found that almost none of the color coding matches between like positions from Explorer to Ranger, so I need schematics if I hope to ever finish this job....
I spent 12 hours yesterday pinning out the Explorer bulkheads thinking that I could probably then pin out the Ranger bulkheads and move the few wires that needed it. Within the first 15 wires on the Ranger, there were 5 wires I couldn't find yet and every position between the Explorer and Ranger bulkheads appear to be different.
The 2000 Ranger that I'm swapping has torsion bars up front rather than coils and my HVAC control is different than my other 2000 Ranger, so I believe that I may have 2001 interior wiring. As that may not be true either, I really needs EVTMs of these bulkheads for:
2000 Ranger 3.0L 5 speed 2WD
2001 Ranger 3.0L 5 speed 2WD
1999 Explorer or Mountaineer 5.0L AWD
RANGER #1
RANGER #2
EXPLORER
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#5
What I found is that of the 3 bulkhead connectors on the driver side firewall, all 3 are loaded with wires on the Explorer, but only 2 connectors are loaded on the Ranger (see pics below). On top of that, I found that almost none of the color coding matches between like positions from Explorer to Ranger, so I need schematics if I hope to ever finish this job...
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If I understand correctly, you're suggesting I buy Ford EVTMs for 3 different vehicles which I'll use once. That would set me back a considerable chunk and it's not something I can afford to do at this point. I'm pretty sure at least a couple of guys out there have at least one of these and could help me out....
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This is where it's odd... Yes, I have PATS and it's got the module in the same location as the 99 Mountaineer just behind the PS airbag, so if it's truly 2001, wouldn't this not be the case? I may have the ultimate bastard!
#9
Hmmm. Well if what I'm looking at is correct, it's strictly a 2000 PATS system. 2001 the PATS box is located physically in the same area behind the air bag, but it's called the "Vehicle Security Module" unlike 2000 where that same module is called simply "PATS Module".
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#12
It sounds like you are trying to swap the whole engine bay harness. All you really need to swap is the engine harness itself, and the wiring for it is pretty simple.
The harness you get from the exploder should end at the rear of the engine, with two large plugs. One for the computer and the large, square plug that ties into the chassis harness.
The harness you get from the exploder should end at the rear of the engine, with two large plugs. One for the computer and the large, square plug that ties into the chassis harness.
#13
It sounds like you are trying to swap the whole engine bay harness. All you really need to swap is the engine harness itself, and the wiring for it is pretty simple.
The harness you get from the exploder should end at the rear of the engine, with two large plugs. One for the computer and the large, square plug that ties into the chassis harness.
The harness you get from the exploder should end at the rear of the engine, with two large plugs. One for the computer and the large, square plug that ties into the chassis harness.
Thanks a lot guys.
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Swapped the harness back in last night in a hurry because I had to get up at 4:30AM to work another 12 hour shift. I didn't connect every last thing up because I didn't have the time to mess with it and the harness just doesn't hit everything, but I immediately got fuel, but no starter engaging or spinning yet. I'll look into that tonight.
Did you guys have any difficulty with the engine connector to chassis harness/connector being kind of tight, like the chassis harness from the 3.0 is a little short for the 5.0?
Did you guys have any difficulty with the engine connector to chassis harness/connector being kind of tight, like the chassis harness from the 3.0 is a little short for the 5.0?
#15
Swapped the harness back in last night in a hurry because I had to get up at 4:30AM to work another 12 hour shift. I didn't connect every last thing up because I didn't have the time to mess with it and the harness just doesn't hit everything, but I immediately got fuel, but no starter engaging or spinning yet. I'll look into that tonight.
Did you guys have any difficulty with the engine connector to chassis harness/connector being kind of tight, like the chassis harness from the 3.0 is a little short for the 5.0?
Did you guys have any difficulty with the engine connector to chassis harness/connector being kind of tight, like the chassis harness from the 3.0 is a little short for the 5.0?
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As for 2000 versus 2001:
The model year determines the equipment so a 2000MY is a 2000MY and a 2001MY is a 2001MY. However, a 2001MY Ranger could easily have a build date in calendar year 2000 since model changeover is typically in July or August. Consult the emissions label under the hood or use a VIN decoder to be sure of the model year.
There was only one 2000MY Ranger that had both 2WD and torsion bars and that was the Trailhead.
#17
Hmmm. Well if what I'm looking at is correct, it's strictly a 2000 PATS system. 2001 the PATS box is located physically in the same area behind the air bag, but it's called the "Vehicle Security Module" unlike 2000 where that same module is called simply "PATS Module".
If I understand correctly, you're suggesting I buy Ford EVTMs for 3 different vehicles which I'll use once. That would set me back a considerable chunk and it's not something I can afford to do at this point. I'm pretty sure at least a couple of guys out there have at least one of these and could help me out....
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