4.0 sohc/5speed high idle sometimes
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4.0 sohc/5speed high idle sometimes
Sometimes when I'm driving after the engine is warmed up (190~ coolant temp), and step in on the clutch, wanting to coast, the engine will rev to around 2k rpm and stay there generally until I slow for a stop. Sometimes I can correct this by quickly turning the ignition off then on, and it will idle right. I'm glad it idles like this when cold, but not when it's warmed to opp. temps. Any suggestions?
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If it comes down to 750 at a full stop.... clean the IAC, dis-connect the battery, turn on headlights, turn off, reconnect, and put it through the idle learning process.
If it is 800+ rpms at idle... look for a vacuum leak or the throttle body not closing all the way.
Also, try quickly opening and closing the throttle when in coast down. Does that lower it? (there is a setting for this in the tune)
Rich
If it is 800+ rpms at idle... look for a vacuum leak or the throttle body not closing all the way.
Also, try quickly opening and closing the throttle when in coast down. Does that lower it? (there is a setting for this in the tune)
Rich
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There was a TSB that corrected mine. I had the same issue. I think its in the 500 range. I dont remember which one it is. I think I posted it here or RPS. I'll look and if I find it wi will post the thred. Basically ford reloaded the code into the computer. Now the code on the outside of the computer is diffrent than whats actually is in it.
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I posted about this somewhere but i cant find it. I think it was this tsb
http://www.ford-trucks.com/tsb/tsb.p...y-2004/t-05510
I went to the shop on base and got it printed out to prove to the dealer that this was a known issue. they told me 3 times that this was normal. BS any way. Take a look at that if you can get it.
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http://www.ford-trucks.com/tsb/tsb.p...y-2004/t-05510
I went to the shop on base and got it printed out to prove to the dealer that this was a known issue. they told me 3 times that this was normal. BS any way. Take a look at that if you can get it.
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#10
found it! RPS site:
http://www.rangerpowersports.com/for...ight=high+idle
If that dont work go to:
Ranger Power Sports Forum > A/V & Electronics > Electrical Tech, idle too high . Oroginal poster: rigigoogoo
Hope this helps.
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http://www.rangerpowersports.com/for...ight=high+idle
If that dont work go to:
Ranger Power Sports Forum > A/V & Electronics > Electrical Tech, idle too high . Oroginal poster: rigigoogoo
Hope this helps.
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#13
1500... IMO...too high 1200 better but still not right... 1000 still too high for me.
Common... the base idle of a manual trans car is like 700-800 rpm. If you are coasting to a stop sign and running 1500 rpm your using fuel, period. With fuel prices these days i dont want to use any when i dont need to and your running 1500 coasting while the base is 700-800. thats twice as much as you should be.
This is all set up by the computer these days. its not even set up by the screw on the TB anymore. I dont like that they have it this way but its not right if its more than say 1000 coasting warmed up. They might say its right but i dont like it. In fact idle control on my truck is slower than i like to see it but it does finally come back to 700-800 while coasting. Sometimes i can get it to come all the way to 500ish with the SCT tune but it dont always do it.
1500, Normal.... not in my book. I wouldnt have it if it did.
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Common... the base idle of a manual trans car is like 700-800 rpm. If you are coasting to a stop sign and running 1500 rpm your using fuel, period. With fuel prices these days i dont want to use any when i dont need to and your running 1500 coasting while the base is 700-800. thats twice as much as you should be.
This is all set up by the computer these days. its not even set up by the screw on the TB anymore. I dont like that they have it this way but its not right if its more than say 1000 coasting warmed up. They might say its right but i dont like it. In fact idle control on my truck is slower than i like to see it but it does finally come back to 700-800 while coasting. Sometimes i can get it to come all the way to 500ish with the SCT tune but it dont always do it.
1500, Normal.... not in my book. I wouldnt have it if it did.
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Just bought my 3rd Ranger in 22 years 2 months ago. 1st - 1990XLT 2wd with 2.9 EFI. 2nd - 2002XLT 4wd with 4.0EFI. 3rd - 2011Sport with 4.0EFI. The 2011 is the only one that continues the high rpm after depressing the clutch and coasting. Returns to normal 700rpm after stopping though. I visited the dealer yesterday to inquire and was told it's all normal. That is the way EFI works. He also said, How about this!! We are tricking the computer because the wheels are still turning. Hard to believe when the feds are requiring higher gas mileage and the big three are cheapening up and making lighter vehicles to comply, that stupid me could trick a computer into worsening my mileage.
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I am with you. If the engine is running at 1500 coasting it is using more than twice the fuel if it coasted at 750. Can you cay bad mileage, i can.
First you need to quantfy high rpm. Mine was from 1200 to 1800 and was almost never the same. Now mine is fixed, sorta. It coasts at 1000 ALWAYS then falls to base when you stop. I even had a tune built for a supercharger and tried to get the guy to fix it but he diddnt even understand what I was talking about. Some tuner, $550 for a chassis dyno tune for a supercharged 4.0 and he cant even understand that I want coasting rpm to be the same as base idle.
Prety much blew me off after i paid for it and picked it up. Any body needing to get a tune and going to memphis (or Alabama) let me know I will tell you who to stay away from
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First you need to quantfy high rpm. Mine was from 1200 to 1800 and was almost never the same. Now mine is fixed, sorta. It coasts at 1000 ALWAYS then falls to base when you stop. I even had a tune built for a supercharger and tried to get the guy to fix it but he diddnt even understand what I was talking about. Some tuner, $550 for a chassis dyno tune for a supercharged 4.0 and he cant even understand that I want coasting rpm to be the same as base idle.
Prety much blew me off after i paid for it and picked it up. Any body needing to get a tune and going to memphis (or Alabama) let me know I will tell you who to stay away from
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You really should look into the TSB's. TSB 05510 is the holy grail…..
http://www.rangerpowersports.com/for...gh-180487.html
I went from 25-28 to 21-24 when we went to 10% alcohol fuel and only lost about 1 mpg after the blower install.
http://www.rangerpowersports.com/for...gh-180487.html
I went from 25-28 to 21-24 when we went to 10% alcohol fuel and only lost about 1 mpg after the blower install.
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