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Old 10-11-2010
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Dreaded PCV cracked elbow.

I wanted to help out people that encounter this problem in the future.

The pic is what the problem looks like.


So, my truck would have a jerkish idle to it and the check light came on. I took it to get an oil change since I needed one and just asked if they could check and see what that loud blowing or (sucking noise I later found out) was.

Ok so it was a hose easy fix, nope well yes but finding the part was the tough part. After going to oreillys, autozone, napa, advanced auto and being told it was an upper radiator hose I decided to hit the forums.

Found it! It’s a PCV elbow. I went back to the autopart stores and they suggested the usual pcv elbow. Nope that wont do it, it is not a generic elbow. This thing is complicated it has three different sizes on the hose itself, (LAME). Ok so nobody has it, back to the forums. After searching and going through the forums everybody says go to the auto store. That is not going to do it for this odd shaped hose. I then got to hoses to match the top and a plastic connector to fit the PCV valve. Truck still ran like crap. Went to

This is the part to fix it.
Buy 2002 Ford Ranger Parts | FordParts.com

and that was the part, finally! Yes it is 50 bucks and no they wont sell you just the elbow itself . Bought it. Replaced it. DONE!

On a side note the new part is made better, I guess it has happened a lot.
 
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Old 10-12-2010
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I used a stainless steel elbow and new piece of hose and a box of clamps, cost about $4.10 total...

Still going strong...
 
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Old 10-14-2010
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Yeah, i had same problem.Finally found a hose to match.Make sure you clean throttle body and intake with some seafoam spray real good.Alot of oil was backing up in the intake when that was compressed.
 
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Old 11-06-2010
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Originally Posted by Rangernation82
I wanted to help out people that encounter this problem in the future.

The pic is what the problem looks like.


So, my truck would have a jerkish idle to it and the check light came on. I took it to get an oil change since I needed one and just asked if they could check and see what that loud blowing or (sucking noise I later found out) was.

Ok so it was a hose easy fix, nope well yes but finding the part was the tough part. After going to oreillys, autozone, napa, advanced auto and being told it was an upper radiator hose I decided to hit the forums.

Found it! It’s a PCV elbow. I went back to the autopart stores and they suggested the usual pcv elbow. Nope that wont do it, it is not a generic elbow. This thing is complicated it has three different sizes on the hose itself, (LAME). Ok so nobody has it, back to the forums. After searching and going through the forums everybody says go to the auto store. That is not going to do it for this odd shaped hose. I then got to hoses to match the top and a plastic connector to fit the PCV valve. Truck still ran like crap. Went to

This is the part to fix it.
Buy 2002 Ford Ranger Parts | FordParts.com

and that was the part, finally! Yes it is 50 bucks and no they wont sell you just the elbow itself . Bought it. Replaced it. DONE!

On a side note the new part is made better, I guess it has happened a lot.


Your link does not work. I need the same part. Can you tell me what the part number is?
 
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Old 11-06-2010
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I went and did a search on the site and there is no such part. How did you get it?
 
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Old 11-15-2010
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Dealer part, cut the tube off new PCV
 
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Old 11-16-2010
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Originally Posted by Y2KTJ
I used a stainless steel elbow and new piece of hose and a box of clamps, cost about $4.10 total...

Still going strong...
Pics?
 
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Old 11-16-2010
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Well I found the part at the dealer. I was able to get it in with the tube and without removing the intake. Both the old and new tubes are much more flexable than I ever thought.
 
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I'm not positive, but it looks like he might have been trying to direct us to this part: 2002 Ford Ranger Crankcase Vent Hose And Connector | FordParts.com

What I would say about that is there is no way that hose is worth the $80 for that kit. But it appears this gives us the necessary information for what we need. I did some searching from the part# on this page and found that I believe the part we need is this part# 2F1Z-6C324-A

Tasca for $18:
https://www.tascaparts.com/oe-ford/2...Y5QRoCvXjw_wcB

Amazon for $19:
https://www.amazon.com/Ford-2F1Z-6C3.../dp/B001H1Q2U8

I'll try to log back on and update when I get it installed.

Edit: Well upon reading a review on Amazon it appears this is likely the part we need, which puts me back to the original issue of cost being high. 2L5Z-6C324-CA On the plus side it comes with the pcv valve and replaces the coolant loop around the pcv valve as well. Maybe I will just get it and be done with it. If you want to replace the whole tube that comes attached, I'm not sure it's doable without removing the intake manifold.

Well I'm reading up on this and multiple people just bend the tube when they are taking it out and putting it in. Interesting.
 

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Old 12-05-2017
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Having struggled with this over the last few days, I figured I would add my input.

I went all over the place trying to find a cheaper replacement then the dealer kit. Couldn't find any in the local junk yards, on ebay, or various websites. And while I seriously considered having the part made by a nearby place that manufacturers hoses, I ended up not doing that as well, because I'm in California. The stupid hose is part of the emissions system and therefore visually inspected during smog check. And I really don't want to deal with failing smog do to a non-oem part. So I bought the dealer kit.

Since I had bought the whole kit, I figured I would replace the whole setup. If you don't want to replace the tube in the manifold, you can cut the zip-tie and the tube just pops into the rubber elbow. However, if you're careful and move slow, you can actually bend the thing ever so slightly and fit the new one in. The hardest part is getting it started, once you get past that it's easy to slide in.
 

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Old 12-05-2017
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Yeah it kind of blew my mind when I saw someone just bend it and slide it in. I would have never guessed it would bend. I ended up doing the same thing. It needed to be replaced for sure, but I was sad to not notice any difference at all in having changed it.
 
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Old 12-06-2017
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Originally Posted by silverbow25
Yeah it kind of blew my mind when I saw someone just bend it and slide it in. I would have never guessed it would bend. I ended up doing the same thing. It needed to be replaced for sure, but I was sad to not notice any difference at all in having changed it.
You weren't having any problems before hand? I had a check engine light (P0171 & P0174) and my gas mileage went to ****. I also ended up cleaning my mass flow sensor and replacing a very dirty air filter.
 
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Old 12-14-2017
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I was having some very minor issues, but they have been with the truck the whole time we've had it, so I really was just hoping for it to help something out, but it didn't. I also replaced it because it seemed like potential cause for something to go wrong if I didn't.
 
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So, what's the purpose of the long tube that goes inside the intake manifold?
 
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Old 08-27-2018
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Purpose of long tube?

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So, what's the purpose of the long tube that goes inside the intake manifold?
I’m having to replace mine as well (the whole pcv valve hose connector) and also would love to know what this tube is for.
 
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