this IS NOT direct proof. this happens on cars that have stock exhaust with the SPRING BOLT FLANGE that you are so worried about in every single exhaust post that you make

 

I love the Hooker Aero chamber muffler

 

Here is how i see it, if the factory put it there then it is there for a reason and subtracting it may cause problems

 

here how i see it.. i dont give a ****.. and its a 2.3L big deal.. there is a 5.0L waiting to take its place...

your logic no one should ever mod there truck.. so Beards truck with a SFA may cause problems now that his IFS is gone... REALLY?!?!?!? lol.. live on the wild side a little OH god a flange is missing what am i gonna do?!??!!?

 

I doubt that because here you are again blowing **** everywhere. why idk you keep saying you could care less... then leave..?

its not MY shop. its Doug's shop he owns it.. its a stock 2.3L it needs "true" flow? really news to me. also they didn't want to do my exhaust the way it is. he wanted to run a SI/DO muffler but being the SI/SO was on there for 2 years before and i didn't want to spend the extra big deal. still my truck.. and supposedly you still don't care.. yet to see that..

Located: Westland, MI (dont know address)
Name: D&J formally D&S

also this "true" flow you speak of. you did Justin's and did not get "true flow" sorry you shoved the pipe into the other to get this "true flow" if you wanted true flow you should have used something like this:

http://www.e30m3performance.com/inst...rns_y-pipe.jpg

or

http://www.performancepeddler.com/im...flow/10768.jpg



Name isn't Chief..

still don't understand you have a hissy fit and PM me and ***** a fit if i ever post in one of your threads.. hell i can post up the PM's here to prove it.. but here you are in mine supposedly "Could care less"

live up to your words Mark and stop caring and stop posting, if you truly didn't care you wouldn't even open the thread..

 

So what your saying is having a spring flange dosen't matter then.


If I have to go ride my quad then I will geezzzzz

 

wow zach i was not going against you, i was talkin about the spring, not the cat.

 

i like this approach:
much better than this one:


wheres my heineken?

 

had a '88 2.3 with no cats ran just fine got better gas mileage. took the cats off my 4runner, it runs fine and gets better gas mileage. was thinking bout taking them off my 01 ranger but decided it wasn't worth the hassle and figured if it ain't broke don't fix it. cats rob power i don't care what any environmental guy says, they still suck. I know they serve a purpose and are supposed to help protect the environment and all. And I'm not saying everybody go take em off and frig up the atmosphere more than it is but they do rob power.

 

that should be reason enough to leave them on if they are still functioning properly

 

ANYTHING that reduces flow will rob power. Period. Don't give me any back pressure BS.

Firefighterjosh : Please, it's "you're" not "your" when compound "you" and "are". You're killing me.

 

Derailed!

 

I'd have to say that either a Gibson or a Hooker aero chamber would sound great and sure wouldn't be too loud.

I'd also like to add that the 2.3L engine needs a certain amount of back pressure and will run better with the stock exhaust and a well-functioning catalic converter. Yes, you might gain a little bit of horsepower running straight pipe and yes, it might sound better or louder, but, you will loose some of that precious torque and in extreme cases, you will burn the exhaust valves over time.
There is a reason why manufacturers like Toyota use a mere 1 and 5/8's of an inch diameter exhaust piping on their 4 cylinder trucks.

Now, on the other extreme, you have racecars with small block chevy's running open headers. This maximizes the horsepower and since they only run for 'a short amount of time' and the engine gets rebuild all the time, this is the way to go.

So, either way, there are benefits to be had, but for me personally, I keep mine stock, also because we have emissions testing